A trip through the fantasy worlds I enjoy

 

This will be a fun week for Legendary Heroes.  On Tuesday we will be release the 1.6 patch as well as updated to the Quest, Loot and Dead World DLC.  Overall this is a balance patch based on lots of playing (this is a process that can go on forever in games like this).  But we also have a few good things in store.

There is a fix that improves the randomness of item generation which is a significant fix, especially if you have the DLC’s (the more items you have, the more problematic the generation would be).  But I’m also excited because we’ve added some new features to the engine.  These are very minor on the code side (literally 3-4 lines) but modders can get a lot of use out of them.  They are the ability to have conditional modifiers be based on the target or attackers stats, rather than be comparative.

Nerd stuff:

In Legendary Heroes you can create an ability that has a conditional comparative modifier, such as the Brute ability that gives +3 Attack when you are attacking someone who is lower level.  It is conditional because it only applies in some situations, and it is comparative because it compares the attacker’s level to the targets to see if it should be applied.

Which this change we can have conditional abilities for things beyond comparisons.  We can have a conditional bonus that is only applied when the target has less than 20 hit points (as with the new Death Blow ability) or a bonus that is given only when the attacker is above a certain level, is enchanted (if we created a unitstat to count enchantments and had every enchantment increment than unitstat), or is using a certain weapon (such as in the new Master Archer ability that gives the unit a critical hit bonus when wielding a bow).

I wanted to make sure to get in abilities that used the new feature both ways so that modders would have examples (and because they are fun).

On Thursday we will be releasing a new Leader Pack DLC for Legendary Heroes.  This adds a new sovereign from the lore of Elemental to each of the 10 base factions. This is the bulk of what I have been playing with for the past 2 months when I have been testing and balancing the game.  This will give you 10 more leaders to play as or against in your games.

With each of the leaders the goal is to make the experience different than playing with other leaders.  My favorite is Magesta. For those of you up on your Elemental lore you will know that Magesta is Procipinee’s daughter. So I wanted something that made her feel like a powerful caster, but giving her a lot of spells felt a little flat. Giving her attack magic didn’t feel very “Paridenish”.  Procipinee herself was always one of my favorite leaders because her crown broke a rule of the game and made her feel like she had a special proficiency with magic without being overpowering (as well as encouraging her players to really invest in enchantments and not be bled dry on mana for other spells because of it).

Magesta was the last leader I had to design, everyone else was ready (though one went through a redesign, which I’ll talk about later).  I just couldn’t find any combination of abilities that felt interesting for her.  I knew I should create a new ability for her, but for what? Create a new spell for her? Give her a bonus to her summons? I tested a lot of abilities and none of them really changed the way I played her. I was playing her like any other caster.

The trick came when I was in looking at the MeleeAppliesSpell code. We have some abilities that trigger a spell whenever you strike an opponent. The Frostborn ability does this to apply Slow every time the unit strikes an enemy. I began to think about what an ability that triggers a spell each time the unit casts a spell would look like and I had Magesta’s unique ability.

It’s called Lifeblood, each time Magesta casts a spell she is healed. That spell could be summoning an elemental or hasting an ally, each spell doubles as a heal spells for Magesta.  When I played with this I found myself timing my spell casting more carefully. I would attack with my melee attack instead of summoning an elemental to allow my enemy to get a swing at me first, then summon the elemental to take advantage of the healing. When I realized I was playing her differently than other leaders I knew I had a good ability.

After Magesta I thought I was done. I wrapped the DLC pack, sent it to QA and started inviting others to play. One of those was Adam Biessener, our brand manager, marketing guy and all around strategy game nerd.  Adam gave great feedback but he didn’t think that Moria, Queen of the Gandru (our new Umber leader) was good enough. Moria established power by rallying bandit groups and umber tribes under her banner. She wasn’t the most powerful of the leaders, but she is sneaky and ruthless. Adam remarked that LH lacked a good thief archtype in its leaders and he thought Moria would be a good place to add that. Since Adam always likes to suggest solutions when he points out problems he also recommended a new roguish ability for her, that she have a chance to get better items from goody huts. I got the ability in and a few hours later we were play testing with her, it felt great and though she can be unbalanced (we put a lot of work into pacing out what random items you find and when, and she breaks those rules) she is fun to play.

One of the challenges in providing new leaders for a game that allows (if not encourages) you to make your own leaders is that it may be viewed as being lower value. After all you can fairly easily make 10 new leaders on your own with the tools we have provided. But even in that case you can take advantage of the DLC. All of the new leader abilities have been added to the sovereign creator. There are new abilities like Lifeblood and Treasure Finder. There are new items and equipment in sovereign customization. And even if you never play as the new leaders, it’s fun to find new enemies to play against.

I look forward to getting it released this week and I hope you have as much fun with the patch and the DLC as I have.


Comments (Page 1)
on Apr 20, 2014

Sounds great. Can't wait for Tuesday and Thursday!

on Apr 20, 2014

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on Apr 20, 2014

So it's just 2 new talents? Any new roles or starting items with unique effects? Would be nice if every leader had something that made them unique.

I'm assuming you have also fixed the issue with having more than like 20 sovs, where the choose opponent screen is no longer able to list all of them and it becomes difficult to get the ones you want in the game.

on Apr 20, 2014

There are 3 new abilities, and wealthy has been remade to be more interesting (that will come in 1.6).  But yes, there are new items too.

ill check the choose opponents screen out, but I'm not aware of any issues with it.  I used it to setup a game with just the new sovereigns so I could test them out without and problems.

on Apr 20, 2014

Wow, this looks really, really good, Derek. Was wondering why you've been EXTREMELY quiet lately.

 

Day one buy for me. Looking forward to it!

 

While I have you, what do you guys think of the upcoming Endless Legends? :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQGrSHFIIew

 

It looks like it has take some cues from LH, MOM, CIV, etc and looks extremely solid. Early access is expected this week. 

on Apr 20, 2014

Fantastic!

on Apr 20, 2014

I am SUPER-pumped for this! *throws money at the screen* Take it! Take it all!

 

This is easily one of my favorite, most-played games. Lately I've been getting back into modding it, and my head is *swimming* with the possibilities this change will allow. I can't WAIT to start messing with it!

 

Hey, while I'm here: How 'bout a RangedAppliedSpell? I was looking for that earlier today, and couldn't find something to fit that bill.

 

ANYway, thanks a lot guys! Can't wait!

on Apr 20, 2014

Looking forward to it.  

... probably should have held off on the few hours today to update all the mods I had   Haven't played since beta 1.5 I think... if not 1.3.

on Apr 21, 2014

Derek Paxton

There are 3 new abilities, and wealthy has been remade to be more interesting (that will come in 1.6).  But yes, there are new items too.

ill check the choose opponents screen out, but I'm not aware of any issues with it.  I used it to setup a game with just the new sovereigns so I could test them out without and problems.

Sweet.

I thought I counted it as 20 but I don't remember, it might be 22 or 25 or something, I noticed it when I had a lot of custom sovs. Wasn't a big deal before because I didn't have much reason to keep more than a dozen custom sovs around, but with 10 new leaders just having a few custom sovs on top of that would cause issues.

on Apr 21, 2014

Thank fish for that.  I can finally carry on with my 3 month old game.

 

Hopefully.

on Apr 21, 2014

Sanati
Quoting Derek Paxton, reply 4

ill check the choose opponents screen out, but I'm not aware of any issues with it.  I used it to setup a game with just the new sovereigns so I could test them out without and problems.
Sweet.

I thought I counted it as 20 but I don't remember, it might be 22 or 25 or something, I noticed it when I had a lot of custom sovs. Wasn't a big deal before because I didn't have much reason to keep more than a dozen custom sovs around, but with 10 new leaders just having a few custom sovs on top of that would cause issues.

@Derek / Sanati - I think there is definitely some weird problem as suggested by Sanati.  When you have over X number of sov's, and you go into the choose opponents screen... there will be some sov's missing from the list of available opponents.  It's kinda random as to which sov's will be missing.  I'm sure you would be able to reproduce it if you create a bunch of custom sov's.... start a new game and check that all of your sov's are listed on that screen.  I've seen this issue all the time but figured it was just me... good to know someone else has the same problem.

Would really like to see it sorted, thanks.

Edit -> OK just checked mine... I have 24 sovs to choose from when started a game (a mix of the default ones + custom ones).... but when I go to customize opponents there is only 23 total, so 1 is missing.  This happens consistently.... there is always one missing.

 

on Apr 21, 2014

So the spouses dlc is nothing more than new starting leaders.Not really what I expected.

on Apr 21, 2014

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on Apr 21, 2014

Ashbery76

So the spouses dlc is nothing more than new starting leaders.Not really what I expected.

 

This is not what I was expecting either.  I figured it would be something along the lines of an in game succession mechanic instead of new starting leaders.

 

I really waiting on the fix that will keep wildland bosses in their wildlands.  I guess I'll hold off on this until that old issue and the new beastmaster bug are addressed.

on Apr 21, 2014

Hello.

I would like to play this game so can you tell me what the most recent game version I should get? And is there another title coming out soon, because I would wait for that if there is one?

 

DARCA.

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