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The last of the Beta 3 series is now available to download. Below is the change log that goes over what's new versus the build from 2 weeks ago.

Foreword from the frog

Beta 3 has been the faction differentiation beta and we will continue to refine the different factions between now and release. At this stage, each faction has some truly distinctive features that should make the game play experience different for each one.

To recap:

  • Magnar, home of the demon elves, can train slaves that, while weaker, don't have to be paid.
  • Gilden, land of the Ironeers, can construct huge iron golems.
  • Altar, where adventurers dwell, can recruit henchmen who act much like champions (except if they die in battle, they're gone).
  • Kraxis, the embodiment of pragmatism, can use influence to bribe units and even cities to join them.
  • Yithril, where the Trogs come from, are able to train monstrous juggernauts who do massive damage (see picture below).
  • Tarth, the most popular faction with players, don't get attack by monsters (other than in wild lands). Go ahead, build that city surrounded by monsters. No defenses needed, the monsters will take care of the trespassers.
  • Pariden, where the heirs of the ancient Magi, led by Queen Procipinee, can conjure outposts anywhere outside the FOW and rippling with magic.
Between now and release (still months away), we'll be enhancing these further. But we hope, as you play this new beta, you find that each faction's ability is ridiculously over powered, and unfair to everyone else.  Our job will be to make sure that they're roughly equally ridiculously overpowered.  The goal being that each player will play quite differently.  And we're still just getting started.
 
The next beta (Beta 4) won't be here for about a month. That beta is all about your civilization. A new city construction system will be introduced, the FE specific economic system will be introduced. 
 
In the meantime, have fun...

 What's new in 0.915.


Features:

+ Traits can now limited to certain units types (iron golem only traits, slave only traits, etc)

+ Added splash damage feature (a percent of the melee damage done is done to surrounding units, enemies and allies alike)

+ Added damage reflection feature (a percent of damage done to the target is done back to the attacker)

+ Added the Juggernaut designable unit (trog only)

+ Added the Juggernaut trait (can't be knocked prone, +100% Attack, +25% splash damage)

+ Added the Brutal Nature juggernaut trait (+100% attack)

+ Added the Frenzy juggernaut trait (+4 initiative)

+ Added the Heart of Stone juggernaut trait (+20 defense vs cutting)

+ Added the Ignore Pain juggernaut trait (+40 hit points)

+ Added the Maul juggernaut trait (grants the unit Maul)

+ Added the Uncontrolled Rage juggernaut trait (+50% splash damage)

+ Added the Tempered Steel trait (iron golem only, raises the defense)

+ Added Henchmen designable unit (altar only, use equipment and gain levels like champions, 50 influence to recruit)

+ Heroic faction trait gives +50 influence and +1 faction prestige whenever they complete a quest (assigned to Altar)

+ Added the Air Adept I-III henchmen traits (give access to minor air spells)

+ Added the Earth Adept I-III henchmen traits (give access to minor earth spells)

+ Added the Fire Adept I-III henchmen traits (give access to minor fire spells)

+ Added the Life Adept I-III henchmen traits (give access to minor life spells)

+ Added the Water Adept I-III henchmen traits (give access to minor water spells)

+ Added the Cook henchman trait (+1 healing for units in the army)

+ Added Shieldwall as a henchman trait (+5 defense for the army)

+ Added the Bard henchman trait (+10% xp for the army)

+ Added the Shieldman henchmen unit

+ Added the Bard henchman unit

+ Added the Torch Bearer henchman unit

+ Henchmen don't count as champions for xp division (ie: Army xp is divided by the amount of champions in it, henchmen don't affect this number)

+ Added hot key tool tips to Govern, Spellbook, and Turn buttons

+ Hooked up hot keys for the above

+ Hooked up hot keys to take players between cities [ and ]

+ Added the Cloak of Thorns spell (reflects 25% of the damage taken back at the attacker)

+ Added the Hurl Boulder spell (adept earth 1 spell for a minor ranged attack)

+ Added the No Armor faction weakness (assigned to resoln, this faction can't learn the armor, hevay armor or arcane armor techs)

+ Added the Binding faction ability (assigned to resoln, their shard shrines summon special elementals like camps)

+ Added the Crow Demon unit (binding summon, can cast thunderstirke and titans breath)

+ Added the Burning Wraith unit (binding summon, has the Feed the Fire ability, tactical stackable ability that increases their attack)

+ Added the Mirror Elemental unit (binding summon, 100% of the damage done to a mirror elemental is also done to the attacker)

+ Added the Grave Elemental unit (binding summon, regenerates and has the harbinger traits)

+ Added the Aid spell (minor heal spell for henchmen)

+ Added the Broken Loyalties spell (switch a city to your control for a huge amount of influence)

+ Added the Betrayers faction ability (assigned to Kraxis, allows them to recruit empire and kingdom champions and use the Broken Loyalties spell)

+ Krax blood gives the unit the ability to Fortify a tile in tactical combat, units in fortified tiles get +10 to Accuracy and +30 to Dodge

+ Added the Undying Curse trait (when this unit kills a victim this unit gains an additional member to its group, to a max of 9 members)

+ Added the Cyndrum Demon (binding summon, has the Undying Curse trait)

+ Master Scouts faction ability keeps monster player units from attacking the player, though they can attack monsters (Tarth ability)

 

Bugs:

+ Fixed an issue with Curse and Curse city using the wrong icons

+ Alchemists labs req 100 crystal instead of taking 1 crystal per turn (they were causing players to drop into negative crystals when they didn’t have mines or overbuilt them)

+ Burning Blade, Stoneskin, Summon Fire Elemental, Summon Earth Elemental, Summon Shadow Warg, and Summon Ice Elemental can no longer be cast twice (once with the strategic version and once with the tactical version)

+ Fixed the desc on the Finesse ability

+ Fixed an issue with the Path of the Assassin trait giving +150% crit damage instead of +50%

+ Fixed an issue causing loot to not be given when defending

+ Fixed annoying camera bug where the camera would center on units that had been attacked but actually had off-screen units selected

+ Fixed an issue that was making Grip of Winter permanent

+ Syphon Soul now correctly reduces the victims attack by 25% and gives that amount to the caster

+ Fixed an issue keeping Titan's Breath from working if it was used as an ability (ie: from an Air Elemental)

+ Fixed an issue allowing a player to spend an additional point in create sovereign if he picks his sovereign last (you cheaters!)

+ Fixed an issue causing the Path of the Assassin's +50% critical damage to be applied per level instead of a flat bonus

+ Fixed an issue causing troll camps to be unbuilable

+ Fixed an issue causing captured sovereigns to not show their mount/equipment correctly

 

 

Balance:

+ Hardy sovereign talent makes the unit immune to poison

+ Natural Leader sovereign talent makes recruiting champions free

+ Scholar sovereign background increases research by 10%

+ Wealthy sovereign talent gives 1000 gildar instead of 200

+ Rebalanced lair distribution (high level lairs are less common, but more low level lairs upgrade now)

+ Added late game versions of the bandit, butcherman and cave bear lairs

+ Reduced the damage on the Ignys Bow slightly

+ Adventurers Boon trait now gives 15 hit points instead of 10

+ Graceful trait gives +2 init along with making the unit immune to being knocked prone, it requires the fast trait

+ Potential trait gives +15/+20/+25% xp instead of +10/15/20%

+ Trainer abilities give +10%/15%/20% xp instead of +5%/10%/15%

+ River Slags and Slags gain Bash

+ Experience gained from battle is now scaled based on world size

+ You only get free city defenders if you founded the city

+ Objects that are hidden by FOW are no longer able to be interacted with (cities, etc.)

+ Some big monsters gain splash damage

+ Amarian’s get -1 hp per level

+ Tarth blood ability increased to +3 attack and init when in groups of 3 or less

+ Trog blood gives +1 attack

+ Increased the crit damage on the vital strike abilities

+ Reduced the pop required for city level 1 from 60 to 50

+ Increase Darkling Rider init from 20 to 24

+ Most quest battles can now be delayed (you can choose to come back later)

+ Increased the reward on the Trolls quest from the Ring of storms to a Scinan Broadsword

+ Slightly increased minimum XP gained from killing things

+ Marginal tile yield tiles have been removed

+ Combat rating to XP ration increased from 5% to 7.5%

+ Bashing Maul does 50% splash damage

+ Titanic Maul does 75% splash damage

+ Mirror Shield now reflects 25% of the damage back at the attacker

+ Removed the squads tech

+ Logistics and Company's moved into the civ tree

+ Increased Balance from +5 Dodge and -2 hit points to +10 Dodge and -1 hit points

+ Removed the Tough unit design trait

+ Changed Fury form +1 attack and -3 hit points to +1 attack and -1 hit point

+ Lithe increased from +3 dodge to +10 dodge

+ Precision gives +10 accuracy instead of +5

+ Shieldwall is a defender ability instead of a unit design trait and it gives +5 defense to the army instead of +1

+ Spell Resistance gives +20 spell resistance instead of +10

+ Several monsters given the Uncontrolled Rage trait (splash damage)

+ Butcherman gain the Undying Curse trait

+ Fireballs casting time reduced from 2 to 1, but it will also damage friendly units in range

+ Units don't get additional movement from roads in enemy territory

 

Cosmetic:

+ Faction power wnd now appears over the terrain wnd

+ Added the one handed spear animations

+ If a player is casting the spell of making it is now displayed in the faction power wnd

+ New Verga background

+ New Ceresa background

+ Tile Yields display is now ON by default

+ New fallen environment terrain

+ New fallen environment trees

 

AI:

+ Monsters less aggressive about going after cities

+ AI a little bit more effective at shopping for equipment

+ Fixed major AI bug in which AI treated monster lairs as "goodie huts". It didn't "see" the monsters on them and thus would get killed over and over.

+ AI relations change more gradually

+ AI manages its strategic spells and mana more effectively

+ AI interacts with player somewhat more often in general

+ AI more generous about valuating spells

+ Monster aggressiveness is now more varied between difficulty levels

+ Fixed a weird issue where a monster would just get stuck never moving.

+ Fixed monster bug where it would want to attack a city but its patrol radius kept it from attacking

+ Doubled/tripple checked to make sure monsters like eating AI as much as humans (they do, players just notice when the bugs above helped AI).

+ AI will offer to trade tech with players

+ AI takes faction prestige into account when determining relations

+ Updated the tool tips for difficulty level. Note: The default difficulty for AI is normal. If you win, turn up the difficulty level before asking us to make normal harder for everyone else. If you can beat Hard, then come talk to us.

+ New difficulty levels (Expert and Insane).

 


Comments (Page 2)
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on May 18, 2012

Every update is like a santa sack full of goodies.

Each new game I start, plays differently to the last and that in it's self, is a great achievement.  I feel that EFE is going to raise the bar to unbelievable heights.

on May 18, 2012

wtf


Too much...can't process......

 

You have single updatedly brought not only further faction differientiation to Altar but made their advantages fit their faction backstory and beliefs to a 'T'. Bravo.

Splash dmg? REFLECT DMG SPELLS?

I am VERY EXCITED.

 

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One concern, however, is the taking out of squad tech. How will this effect our armies? Will we be stuck with 3 per slot for longer now?

 

Also is there any chance there can be a way to upgrade those high lvl 3 per slot guys to 5+? I'm up for making it ridiculously expensive even...just having the option would be nice. As it is I just regulate those super 3 men slots to guard duty since I cannot upgrade them to larger squad #s later game....but maybe it's an uncessary thing and its ok as is.

 

How do others feel on this?

 

on May 18, 2012

Oh man, I am so excited for this next patch you have no idea I WANT IT NAAAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

I'm especially pumped for being able to limit traits by faction/subrace type.  That will really help me in a mod I'm hoping to build on release.

on May 18, 2012

Gotta Love Changelogs ... just like going to the movies, and seeing a "List of Coming Attractions" ...

The changes/corrections/fixes to the AI look like a great improvement !  You folks in the Development Team (especially Frogboy) must have been taking many of the Beta Testers' recent comments to heart.  Thanks ! 

It seemed clear that a number of AI issues needed to be finessed -- for example, the proportionally greater increase in difficulty associated with Beginner and Easy Levels, as opposed to the relatively lesser increase in difficulty associated with the challenging level -- that had crept into the last two updates. 

I know that the Beta is a work in progress; but it is easy for some of us to get nervous, if we don't see steady evidence that appropriate corrections are being made.  Again, Thanks ! ... Hope you can forgive us, our comments and plea's, especially when they seem to degenerate into childish complaints and/or rabid criticisms ...  

Dynamite list of Balance Corrections too !  You guys really are doing an amazing job !        

on May 18, 2012

Na, we must keep up the moaning and crying about things in the game to keep the devs on their toes.  They are nine yards away from making one of the best games ever, we can't have them falling asleep on the job.

on May 18, 2012

Addendum:  Four of the most appealing  Balance Corrections  (IMHO      ):

+ Experience gained from battle is now scaled based on world size

+ You only get free defenders if you founded the city

+ Objects that are hidden by FOW (Fog of War) are no longer able to be interacted with (cities, etc.)

+ Rebalanced lair distribution (high level lairs are less common, but more low level lairs upgrade now) 

on May 18, 2012

another excelent changelog, just one issue

'unreleased'

want asap

harpo

on May 18, 2012


 
+ Added the Mirror Elemental (binding summon, 100% of the damage done to a mirror elemental is also done to the attacker)

What happens when a Mirror Elemental damages another Mirror Elemental? 

on May 18, 2012

Derek Paxton

Quoting DsRaider, reply 6Wow this patch looks amazing.

It will be interesting to see how the no armor trait works out... Since in my experience nothing beats well armored troops.

It's definitely a major disadvantage.  One of the reason they get spiders is to help them control the battle with webs.  They are the least able to go toe to toe with another faction.  But they have spells, summons and spiders to make up for it.

 

Given how outgunned I am often by the AI, I'll get raided to death.

No idea how the AI is getting so many champions/troops compared to me.

 

 

Does damage reflection just work on melee, or all damage types?

 

The lack of ever getting free defenders means I'd probably just raze everything in future.  Conquering cities may be not worth it compared to razing.

 

I also wonder how this will all balance out in the end, and you still have 2 more factions to add back.  That said, I'm really enjoying the ride right now, you're making me not want to play other solid to good games, which is a sign you've got something that's getting near greatness.

 

on May 18, 2012

Derek, you forgot one

+Added Umber back and will give it some love and specialization later

on May 18, 2012

harpo99999
another excelent changelog, just one issue

'unreleased'

want asap

harpo

 

Seconded, signed and agreed with.

We wantz itz nowz.  

on May 18, 2012


 

+ Added Henchmen designable unit (altar only, use equipment and gain levels like champions, 50 influence to recruit)

+ Heroic faction trait gives +50 influence and +1 faction prestige whenever they complete a quest (assigned to Altar)


+ Experience gained from battle is now scaled based on world size



+ Faction power wnd now appears over the terrain wnd

+ If a player is casting the spell of making it is now displayed in the faction power wnd
 
+ Monsters less aggressive about going after cities

 

Altar sounds heroic faction trait with the henchmen sounds a little overpowerd. But better go large or go home! It sounds really nice to play.

Experience downscale on larger maps? Ugh...

What is "wnd"?

Monsters less aggressive? I still see monster lairs next to AI towns... Hope this has been fixed then.

 

All in all, the patch sounds great!

on May 18, 2012

+ Removed the squads tech

Great!!   I hated it!

but how you balance this with the huge hp gain of veteran units? (I hope more accuracy and dodge and less hp X level)

on May 18, 2012

wnd = window (yes I know it's not logical, but that's the shortened version they use, check install dir/screens/)

I don't really see how henchmen will work without creating a ton of micro for the player with a bunch of equipment-needing trait-popping units running around.

on May 18, 2012

+ Added Shieldwall as a henchman trait (+5 defense for the army)

 

I suggest making this apply only to adjacent units, and perhaps increase it a little to compensate (maybe +8). More opportunities for tactical positioning of units would be nice, and it shouldn't be too hard to make the AI understand how to use/fight it properly.

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